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	<title>Comments on: Read this while you wait in the frickin&#8217; airport</title>
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	<description>FORTUNE&#039;s Stanley Bing shares his wit and wisdom every day with a blog, a career advice column, and special features like a gallery of Bullshit Jobs from his book 100 Bullshit Jobs ... and How to Get Them.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Fort Worth Tx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Fort Worth Tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a lot of flights (not the longer ones I guess 1500 miles or shorter),flight attendants are required to clean the plane before they deplane and go on to next flight. And they don&#039;t get paid for any work they do on the ground unless the door is closed, so, basically flying time. But even boarding, deplaning, cleaning and delays (5 hours or wherever) they don&#039;t get paid for that! Not even a dime! So during delays and all that: Remember this: The crew is not getting paid at all! That&#039;s why pre boarding is an issue as well! There has to be a line, or the company will have crewmembers working even more for free. Gate agents know better than to ask the crew if they want to start pre boarding and work a few minutes more for free... Typically they can have about 3 flights a day maybe 4, and the day can be as long as 15-16 hours, but because a lot of the work they do they don&#039;t get paid, In the end, for a 15 hours work day they got paid for about 6 or 7 hours. As you can see the problem is a lot bigger than just bad employees or rude people. There&#039;s the UNION telling workers to say NO when asked to work for free because management certainly doesn&#039;t! Then you have costumers that paid a lot of money to fly and have to deal with crap and no right to complain! I really feel for the passengers! But employees are overworked, underpaid, working many hours for free. So it comes back to consumer‘s power: Write to the AIRLINE COMPANY and tell them what you think from your point of view. Do something about it! Fight to get things changed! It will take a lot o people making a lot of noise for something to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a lot of flights (not the longer ones I guess 1500 miles or shorter),flight attendants are required to clean the plane before they deplane and go on to next flight. And they don&#8217;t get paid for any work they do on the ground unless the door is closed, so, basically flying time. But even boarding, deplaning, cleaning and delays (5 hours or wherever) they don&#8217;t get paid for that! Not even a dime! So during delays and all that: Remember this: The crew is not getting paid at all! That&#8217;s why pre boarding is an issue as well! There has to be a line, or the company will have crewmembers working even more for free. Gate agents know better than to ask the crew if they want to start pre boarding and work a few minutes more for free&#8230; Typically they can have about 3 flights a day maybe 4, and the day can be as long as 15-16 hours, but because a lot of the work they do they don&#8217;t get paid, In the end, for a 15 hours work day they got paid for about 6 or 7 hours. As you can see the problem is a lot bigger than just bad employees or rude people. There&#8217;s the UNION telling workers to say NO when asked to work for free because management certainly doesn&#8217;t! Then you have costumers that paid a lot of money to fly and have to deal with crap and no right to complain! I really feel for the passengers! But employees are overworked, underpaid, working many hours for free. So it comes back to consumer‘s power: Write to the AIRLINE COMPANY and tell them what you think from your point of view. Do something about it! Fight to get things changed! It will take a lot o people making a lot of noise for something to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: John L., Washington, DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>John L., Washington, DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty funny, Wohlbier - a Texan bitching about people not having class, courtesy, and style.  Oh, the bitter irony...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty funny, Wohlbier &#8211; a Texan bitching about people not having class, courtesy, and style.  Oh, the bitter irony&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Peters, London, UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Peters, London, UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Marcus Wohlbier. The problem is my two year old has more class &amp; style than you. He neither denigrates nor complains about his fellow travelers, nor does he swear or attempt impress anyone with his wealth. They are both multi-lingual and have tasted foods from all corners of the globe. Both he and his four year old brother have nearly 30 countries between them. They have a knowledge of the world and a sophistication beyond your own. So why don&#039;t you take the bus. Just because you&#039;re older doesn&#039;t make you better. Anyone can get older.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Marcus Wohlbier. The problem is my two year old has more class &amp; style than you. He neither denigrates nor complains about his fellow travelers, nor does he swear or attempt impress anyone with his wealth. They are both multi-lingual and have tasted foods from all corners of the globe. Both he and his four year old brother have nearly 30 countries between them. They have a knowledge of the world and a sophistication beyond your own. So why don&#8217;t you take the bus. Just because you&#8217;re older doesn&#8217;t make you better. Anyone can get older.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Wohlbier, Dallas, TX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Wohlbier, Dallas, TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line here is the airlines are managed by blind incompetents, and airline workers - at least the customer facing ones - have lost all sense of customer SERVICE.

Get this, American, Delta, NW, others:  double ticket prices.  Get the friggin riff-raff off the planes (customers and sky hags alike) and bring back the days when flying meant travel in style.

Oh, yes:  if you have a two year old child?  Stay home!  Unless (s)he needs a kidney transplant and is on the way to the Mayo to get it, DRIVE, or get the grandparents to fly.

The air is meant for those of class, courtesy, style, and money.  Not for the budget-conscious &quot;traveler,&quot; - these folks are best served by that American icon...GREYHOUND.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line here is the airlines are managed by blind incompetents, and airline workers &#8211; at least the customer facing ones &#8211; have lost all sense of customer SERVICE.</p>
<p>Get this, American, Delta, NW, others:  double ticket prices.  Get the friggin riff-raff off the planes (customers and sky hags alike) and bring back the days when flying meant travel in style.</p>
<p>Oh, yes:  if you have a two year old child?  Stay home!  Unless (s)he needs a kidney transplant and is on the way to the Mayo to get it, DRIVE, or get the grandparents to fly.</p>
<p>The air is meant for those of class, courtesy, style, and money.  Not for the budget-conscious &#8220;traveler,&#8221; &#8211; these folks are best served by that American icon&#8230;GREYHOUND.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom, Dallas, Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom, Dallas, Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To All AA Employees: I am a ExecAdv Member (2M Miles strong), and I have watched you guys perform with professionalism and sincere cheer every week now for the last five years, all the while watching your pay go down the toilet and your management step on you like bugs.  What I say is: put a pitchfork in the back of your Union Leaders, and *demand* your lives back at the next contract negotiations!  Remember your pilots: they gave up to &quot;save&quot; the company, only to have Don Carty try to sneak through highly lucrative bonuses for himself and a few other executives (later revealed in an SEC filing) - remember 2003?  Back then, the Flight Attendants&#039; Union had it right - FIGHT!  I remember many headlines on the front pages of the Dallas Morning News concerning AA back in the wake of 911, and how the unions and management were &quot;working together&quot; to &quot;save&quot; the company.  WHAT A CROCK!

Remember: Your management has truly placed the burden of &quot;saving the company&quot; on your backs, and while making you bleed and suffer, have awarded themselves millions in bonuses and other perks - and for what?  From my vantage point (the faithful customer), all I have seen are: no meals for coach; increased security hassles; frustrated employees faithfully performing their duties; static or slightly more expensive fares; increased delays both on the gate and on the tarmack.  Nothing has improved for the customer!

When you go back to the negotiating tables, send a clear message to your union bosses that you demand your lives back - a reasonable living wage, a useful training schedule, and most important - improved insurance benefits.  If the management balks like your VP of HR has done in recent news articles on CNN.com, then demand he give back his 2007 bonuses and perks as &quot;a sign of good faith negotiating&quot;.  Remember - I am willing to bet 500,000 ff miles that no currently employed AMR executives have taken any cuts in insurance benefits or salaries since consummation of your last labor contract.

American Airlines Employees are simply the best - head and shoulders above Delta, USAirways, and NWA.  You guys deserve much for the way you have handled yourselves over the last 5 years, and your company management has demonstrated in the press that they are simply arrogant, greedy little people that treat you with utter contempt - not giving one thought to the fact that you guys might have families to support.  At the next Union Negotiations, test their statements - if the company has to become more competitive, then make the management match any employee concessions IN WRITING - if you guys have to give, then they have to give too.  The idea of &quot;good faith&quot; negotiating has gone the by the wayside.

AMR recently called me to ask for my opinions on how the company could improve itself.  My answers were: 1) Increase Employee Pay 2)Provide Increased Training 3) Management needs to become more conscience of their appearance in the press - right now, the AMR management looks pretty bad in the public&#039;s eyes.

I stress employee improvements (pay, training, etc) because YOU ARE AN AIRLINE!  I may not have an MBA, but I have enough sense to know that if you run a hazardous business (flying is inherently dangerous) then high employee moral and strong employee knowledge of safety procedures are paramount to avoiding hazards and accidents, as well as taking appropriate steps to save lives when accidents happen.

GOOD LUCK GUYS!  FLY THE FRIENDLY SKIES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To All AA Employees: I am a ExecAdv Member (2M Miles strong), and I have watched you guys perform with professionalism and sincere cheer every week now for the last five years, all the while watching your pay go down the toilet and your management step on you like bugs.  What I say is: put a pitchfork in the back of your Union Leaders, and *demand* your lives back at the next contract negotiations!  Remember your pilots: they gave up to &#8220;save&#8221; the company, only to have Don Carty try to sneak through highly lucrative bonuses for himself and a few other executives (later revealed in an SEC filing) &#8211; remember 2003?  Back then, the Flight Attendants&#8217; Union had it right &#8211; FIGHT!  I remember many headlines on the front pages of the Dallas Morning News concerning AA back in the wake of 911, and how the unions and management were &#8220;working together&#8221; to &#8220;save&#8221; the company.  WHAT A CROCK!</p>
<p>Remember: Your management has truly placed the burden of &#8220;saving the company&#8221; on your backs, and while making you bleed and suffer, have awarded themselves millions in bonuses and other perks &#8211; and for what?  From my vantage point (the faithful customer), all I have seen are: no meals for coach; increased security hassles; frustrated employees faithfully performing their duties; static or slightly more expensive fares; increased delays both on the gate and on the tarmack.  Nothing has improved for the customer!</p>
<p>When you go back to the negotiating tables, send a clear message to your union bosses that you demand your lives back &#8211; a reasonable living wage, a useful training schedule, and most important &#8211; improved insurance benefits.  If the management balks like your VP of HR has done in recent news articles on CNN.com, then demand he give back his 2007 bonuses and perks as &#8220;a sign of good faith negotiating&#8221;.  Remember &#8211; I am willing to bet 500,000 ff miles that no currently employed AMR executives have taken any cuts in insurance benefits or salaries since consummation of your last labor contract.</p>
<p>American Airlines Employees are simply the best &#8211; head and shoulders above Delta, USAirways, and NWA.  You guys deserve much for the way you have handled yourselves over the last 5 years, and your company management has demonstrated in the press that they are simply arrogant, greedy little people that treat you with utter contempt &#8211; not giving one thought to the fact that you guys might have families to support.  At the next Union Negotiations, test their statements &#8211; if the company has to become more competitive, then make the management match any employee concessions IN WRITING &#8211; if you guys have to give, then they have to give too.  The idea of &#8220;good faith&#8221; negotiating has gone the by the wayside.</p>
<p>AMR recently called me to ask for my opinions on how the company could improve itself.  My answers were: 1) Increase Employee Pay 2)Provide Increased Training 3) Management needs to become more conscience of their appearance in the press &#8211; right now, the AMR management looks pretty bad in the public&#8217;s eyes.</p>
<p>I stress employee improvements (pay, training, etc) because YOU ARE AN AIRLINE!  I may not have an MBA, but I have enough sense to know that if you run a hazardous business (flying is inherently dangerous) then high employee moral and strong employee knowledge of safety procedures are paramount to avoiding hazards and accidents, as well as taking appropriate steps to save lives when accidents happen.</p>
<p>GOOD LUCK GUYS!  FLY THE FRIENDLY SKIES!</p>
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		<title>By: Marsha  Honolulu, Hawaii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marsha  Honolulu, Hawaii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that there are no complaints about seat comfort, one of our major complaints.  No leg room or seat width.  We were on a recent flight where the passenger in front of me put his seat all the way back and I was looking at his scalp.  Apparently the seat pitch lever was broken.  He refused to put his seat up at my request stating he had paid &quot;good money and had the right to comfort&quot;.  It took some time to get a flight attendant to address the problem and she acted as though I was annoying her.  I would rather suffer through a 2 hour flight delay in an airport than experience this situation again on a 6 hour flight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that there are no complaints about seat comfort, one of our major complaints.  No leg room or seat width.  We were on a recent flight where the passenger in front of me put his seat all the way back and I was looking at his scalp.  Apparently the seat pitch lever was broken.  He refused to put his seat up at my request stating he had paid &#8220;good money and had the right to comfort&#8221;.  It took some time to get a flight attendant to address the problem and she acted as though I was annoying her.  I would rather suffer through a 2 hour flight delay in an airport than experience this situation again on a 6 hour flight.</p>
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		<title>By: dick bohanon,la,ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>dick bohanon,la,ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i use to fly about once a month
i have flown twice in last five years
i dont miss the pain at all
driving is just fine
(time is almost the same)
airlines dont care so dont expect improvments anytime soon
when execs get bonuses for not 
doing a better job
why would they ever change.
few delays in my car!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i use to fly about once a month<br />
i have flown twice in last five years<br />
i dont miss the pain at all<br />
driving is just fine<br />
(time is almost the same)<br />
airlines dont care so dont expect improvments anytime soon<br />
when execs get bonuses for not<br />
doing a better job<br />
why would they ever change.<br />
few delays in my car!</p>
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		<title>By: Raj, Orlando, FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raj, Orlando, FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the Sr. Executives at Airlines keep making salaries amounting to highway robery while cutting the salaries of those who work, we the public will suffer!
May be we need rail system to get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the Sr. Executives at Airlines keep making salaries amounting to highway robery while cutting the salaries of those who work, we the public will suffer!<br />
May be we need rail system to get better.</p>
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		<title>By: Mildred, Phoenix, AZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mildred, Phoenix, AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quit flying after I got the &quot;wand&quot; treatment the last time I flew out of Phoenix. 

Why the heck is TSA targeting a white, middle aged grandmother when they can&#039;t begin to stop the flow of illegals swarming over our borders?

Another good reason to not fly as often next year. The Year of the Rat, 2008 says:
The clash between fire and water will also bring accidents related to fire and the airline business is in the category of fire element. As such, it is observed that the year of the Rat seems to experience more air disasters. A typical year with many aviation disasters is the previous Rat year in 1996. During this year, there are over 20 major airplane crashes including the U.S. TWA Boeing 747 crashed in July, 1996 killing 230. Looking at the immediate last Earth Rat year in 1948, there were also quite a numbers of airplane crashes including the hijack of a Cathy Pacific airplane in June, 1948.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quit flying after I got the &#8220;wand&#8221; treatment the last time I flew out of Phoenix. </p>
<p>Why the heck is TSA targeting a white, middle aged grandmother when they can&#8217;t begin to stop the flow of illegals swarming over our borders?</p>
<p>Another good reason to not fly as often next year. The Year of the Rat, 2008 says:<br />
The clash between fire and water will also bring accidents related to fire and the airline business is in the category of fire element. As such, it is observed that the year of the Rat seems to experience more air disasters. A typical year with many aviation disasters is the previous Rat year in 1996. During this year, there are over 20 major airplane crashes including the U.S. TWA Boeing 747 crashed in July, 1996 killing 230. Looking at the immediate last Earth Rat year in 1948, there were also quite a numbers of airplane crashes including the hijack of a Cathy Pacific airplane in June, 1948.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Carson, Malibu, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Carson, Malibu, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expectations, and how to save $5 on an airline ticket


“When I fly, I always take Delta… That’s because they pay their pilots the most money… You don’t want to fly with unhappy pilots.” 

Johnny Carson, Tonight Show monologue, 1981



Traversing race, culture, gender, education level and socio-economic standing is the desire to be happy. It is the most powerful force buried at the center of the human soul. An individual’s “happiness” is directly linked to how life unfolds relative to expectations. Hopes and dreams in a mate, family, friends, social standing, or a career are just a few areas that can fall short, meet, or exceed expectations.

Tragic irony of high expectations is the possibility they will not be met hence a greater risk of an unhappy life. Throughout life expectations are created and destroyed. Over the course of a lifetime a common pattern emerges where expectations follow a trace akin to a bell curve. Zero at birth, peaking mid-life, and diminishing as one passes the “mid-life crisis”. With this knowledge one might conclude the key to happiness at any point along the curve is to simply lower your expectations. Unfortunately expectations are often set as a result of something external to or as a result of something the individual did or did not accomplish. Print, video, and other environmental exposure are powerful influences. Performance in academics, sports, social life, college and graduate school play an important part of setting expectations. Success indexes life’s expectation curve higher while failure drives it lower. A driven, successful, highly capable person who has climbed the ladder to Chief of Neurosurgery at Massachusetts General will have radically higher expectations than a person who flunked out of high school, smoked dope for three years before setting a lifetime career goal to become a forklift driver at the city garbage dump.

Business leaders recognize it’s essential in a market-based enterprise to have happy employees. “Best man or woman for the job” does not imply the one who has the highest level of capability but rather the person whose capabilities and expectations most closely match the duties, responsibilities, and compensation the job has to offer. Management must balance the need for competence against cost. When a business cannot meet employee and customer expectations balanced against revenue, it will fail. When an entire industry finds itself in this situation, the entire industry will fail.

In the airline industry an unprecedented percentage of unit revenue and unit expense is outside control of management. In 1978 pricing power was wiped out with passage of the Airline Deregulation Act. During the 1990’s the Internet matured making it almost impossible to gain a revenue advantage over a competitor. Awash in red ink it was no surprise the chainsaw was wielded at labor in an attempt to reduce costs following the Dot-com bust of 2000 and the events surrounding September 11, 2001. It was the perfect storm. Luckily the airlines had resources in place to deal with the tragedy. For the last 35 years a Washington D.C. based think tank funded by the airlines, Airline Industrial Relations Conference, has existed to achieve one objective: Control airline personnel cost. How well have they done? In a word, phenomenal. I will illustrate the fruits of their labor with their crowning achievement................. Airline pilots


In terms of inflation adjusted dollars, Airline pilots today earn less than half of what they did 35 years ago. The unit of work can be measured by flight hours, duty hours, hours away from home, Revenue Passenger Miles, Available Seat Miles, or most importantly, revenue generated per pilot.


Industry hyperbole: Pilots are paid way too much. Look at the hourly wage. Look at how little they work. Seems like a whole lot of money to pay someone for a part time hobby.

In reality if consideration is given to opportunity cost, time value of money, true number of hours required to become and work as a commercial pilot, risk in terms of not completing a career for any number of reasons, including getting killed; The economic justification is not substantiated to become a commercial pilot even if the career goal is attained. 

Industry belief: There is not now nor will there ever be a shortage of people willing to work as pilots at any wage. 

True fact. Nor will there ever be a shortage of people willing to be Professional Ball players, or Firefighters or CEOs at any wage. The question is this: Will the industry be able to attract and retain the level of competence required at any wage? The answer is no. At the current Federal minimum wage you would not be able to consistently find competent Professional Ball players, Firefighters, CEOs or Airline pilots. 

Industry stance: Pilots don’t get paid minimum wage and planes are not falling out of the sky. 

The current national manpower pool of airline pilots came in with substantially higher career expectations, thus capability than what will be the next generation airline pilots. Airlines now operate on borrowed time during the transition. It will take years, perhaps a decade for current pilots to retire and or leave the profession in significant numbers before the damage to safety will be acknowledged.

Industry opinion: Statistically we are enjoying an era of unprecedented airline safety. There will always be some level of risk to flying.

A time bomb is being built as airlines focus on lower expectation pilots. As the industry continues the “race to the bottom” airline leadership will confront a pilot labor pool decimated to such an extent that safe, reliable air transportation will no longer be feasible within the cost structure they created. As the next generation pilots take command we will see much more of what is now just the tip of an alarming iceberg: Unthinkable missteps by incompetent pilots resulting in massive loss of life and substantial hull losses. Recent events such as the Helios 737 crash, the West Caribbean MD-82 crash, the American Airbus A300 crash, the Northwest Pinnacle CRJ crash and the Delta Comair CRJ crash are examples are inexcusable errors that should have never happened. Safe air travel was built by minimizing identifiable risk. The industry has become complacent with the current level of safety and is willing to accept increased risk in an effort to reduce personnel costs. 

Industry objective: Replace human capability with technology. Over the last 35 years the modern airliner has been loaded with safety features in an attempt to idiot-proof flying. If we can teach Homer Simpson to run a nuclear power plant we can now teach his twin brother to fly a jet plane.

Flying is a dynamic environment requiring considerable judgment and intervention beyond the capability of technology. Members of the Airline Industrial Relations Conference need to dispatch with the NTSB Go Team so they could see first hand the true fruits of their labor. The severed body parts and blood splattered airplane wreckage. The stench of burned human flesh and charred remains at the crash site of Delta Comair 5191 in Lexington, Kentucky. They should be required to console the loved ones of those who were killed. Only Airline Industrial Relations Conference members would attempt to quantify why such a hull loss is acceptable. Air Conference members should be held accountable for manslaughter, or if they fully understand what they have done, murder. Safety of the flying public needs to take priority over trying to staff airline cockpits with the cheapest human resources the industry can find. The Simpson’s is just a cartoon.

Interviewing people from every walk of life for three decades he understood what made people tick. If he were alive today, Johnny Carson would not be flying Delta or any other airline. He would not be able to find any well-paid happy pilots. The leaders of the airline industry have won and the flying public has lost. And it was all for what? $5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expectations, and how to save $5 on an airline ticket</p>
<p>“When I fly, I always take Delta… That’s because they pay their pilots the most money… You don’t want to fly with unhappy pilots.” </p>
<p>Johnny Carson, Tonight Show monologue, 1981</p>
<p>Traversing race, culture, gender, education level and socio-economic standing is the desire to be happy. It is the most powerful force buried at the center of the human soul. An individual’s “happiness” is directly linked to how life unfolds relative to expectations. Hopes and dreams in a mate, family, friends, social standing, or a career are just a few areas that can fall short, meet, or exceed expectations.</p>
<p>Tragic irony of high expectations is the possibility they will not be met hence a greater risk of an unhappy life. Throughout life expectations are created and destroyed. Over the course of a lifetime a common pattern emerges where expectations follow a trace akin to a bell curve. Zero at birth, peaking mid-life, and diminishing as one passes the “mid-life crisis”. With this knowledge one might conclude the key to happiness at any point along the curve is to simply lower your expectations. Unfortunately expectations are often set as a result of something external to or as a result of something the individual did or did not accomplish. Print, video, and other environmental exposure are powerful influences. Performance in academics, sports, social life, college and graduate school play an important part of setting expectations. Success indexes life’s expectation curve higher while failure drives it lower. A driven, successful, highly capable person who has climbed the ladder to Chief of Neurosurgery at Massachusetts General will have radically higher expectations than a person who flunked out of high school, smoked dope for three years before setting a lifetime career goal to become a forklift driver at the city garbage dump.</p>
<p>Business leaders recognize it’s essential in a market-based enterprise to have happy employees. “Best man or woman for the job” does not imply the one who has the highest level of capability but rather the person whose capabilities and expectations most closely match the duties, responsibilities, and compensation the job has to offer. Management must balance the need for competence against cost. When a business cannot meet employee and customer expectations balanced against revenue, it will fail. When an entire industry finds itself in this situation, the entire industry will fail.</p>
<p>In the airline industry an unprecedented percentage of unit revenue and unit expense is outside control of management. In 1978 pricing power was wiped out with passage of the Airline Deregulation Act. During the 1990’s the Internet matured making it almost impossible to gain a revenue advantage over a competitor. Awash in red ink it was no surprise the chainsaw was wielded at labor in an attempt to reduce costs following the Dot-com bust of 2000 and the events surrounding September 11, 2001. It was the perfect storm. Luckily the airlines had resources in place to deal with the tragedy. For the last 35 years a Washington D.C. based think tank funded by the airlines, Airline Industrial Relations Conference, has existed to achieve one objective: Control airline personnel cost. How well have they done? In a word, phenomenal. I will illustrate the fruits of their labor with their crowning achievement&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. Airline pilots</p>
<p>In terms of inflation adjusted dollars, Airline pilots today earn less than half of what they did 35 years ago. The unit of work can be measured by flight hours, duty hours, hours away from home, Revenue Passenger Miles, Available Seat Miles, or most importantly, revenue generated per pilot.</p>
<p>Industry hyperbole: Pilots are paid way too much. Look at the hourly wage. Look at how little they work. Seems like a whole lot of money to pay someone for a part time hobby.</p>
<p>In reality if consideration is given to opportunity cost, time value of money, true number of hours required to become and work as a commercial pilot, risk in terms of not completing a career for any number of reasons, including getting killed; The economic justification is not substantiated to become a commercial pilot even if the career goal is attained. </p>
<p>Industry belief: There is not now nor will there ever be a shortage of people willing to work as pilots at any wage. </p>
<p>True fact. Nor will there ever be a shortage of people willing to be Professional Ball players, or Firefighters or CEOs at any wage. The question is this: Will the industry be able to attract and retain the level of competence required at any wage? The answer is no. At the current Federal minimum wage you would not be able to consistently find competent Professional Ball players, Firefighters, CEOs or Airline pilots. </p>
<p>Industry stance: Pilots don’t get paid minimum wage and planes are not falling out of the sky. </p>
<p>The current national manpower pool of airline pilots came in with substantially higher career expectations, thus capability than what will be the next generation airline pilots. Airlines now operate on borrowed time during the transition. It will take years, perhaps a decade for current pilots to retire and or leave the profession in significant numbers before the damage to safety will be acknowledged.</p>
<p>Industry opinion: Statistically we are enjoying an era of unprecedented airline safety. There will always be some level of risk to flying.</p>
<p>A time bomb is being built as airlines focus on lower expectation pilots. As the industry continues the “race to the bottom” airline leadership will confront a pilot labor pool decimated to such an extent that safe, reliable air transportation will no longer be feasible within the cost structure they created. As the next generation pilots take command we will see much more of what is now just the tip of an alarming iceberg: Unthinkable missteps by incompetent pilots resulting in massive loss of life and substantial hull losses. Recent events such as the Helios 737 crash, the West Caribbean MD-82 crash, the American Airbus A300 crash, the Northwest Pinnacle CRJ crash and the Delta Comair CRJ crash are examples are inexcusable errors that should have never happened. Safe air travel was built by minimizing identifiable risk. The industry has become complacent with the current level of safety and is willing to accept increased risk in an effort to reduce personnel costs. </p>
<p>Industry objective: Replace human capability with technology. Over the last 35 years the modern airliner has been loaded with safety features in an attempt to idiot-proof flying. If we can teach Homer Simpson to run a nuclear power plant we can now teach his twin brother to fly a jet plane.</p>
<p>Flying is a dynamic environment requiring considerable judgment and intervention beyond the capability of technology. Members of the Airline Industrial Relations Conference need to dispatch with the NTSB Go Team so they could see first hand the true fruits of their labor. The severed body parts and blood splattered airplane wreckage. The stench of burned human flesh and charred remains at the crash site of Delta Comair 5191 in Lexington, Kentucky. They should be required to console the loved ones of those who were killed. Only Airline Industrial Relations Conference members would attempt to quantify why such a hull loss is acceptable. Air Conference members should be held accountable for manslaughter, or if they fully understand what they have done, murder. Safety of the flying public needs to take priority over trying to staff airline cockpits with the cheapest human resources the industry can find. The Simpson’s is just a cartoon.</p>
<p>Interviewing people from every walk of life for three decades he understood what made people tick. If he were alive today, Johnny Carson would not be flying Delta or any other airline. He would not be able to find any well-paid happy pilots. The leaders of the airline industry have won and the flying public has lost. And it was all for what? $5.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Crispo, Short Hills, NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori Crispo, Short Hills, NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stanley,
You rock! And so does your blog. I also loved &quot;Element&#039;s of Style&quot; in this week&#039;s Fortune. Made me squeamish, though.

My most recent airport horror story occurred at O&#039;Hare, where I had just made a presentation at the airport Hilton and was on my way to Oklahoma City for a 2nd meeting that day. I had on a nice suit with a camisole underneath (not to be titillating, just the facts). I was traveling with a colleague, a cool 71-year old gentleman. 

Going through security, the TSA troll asked me to remove my jacket. I told him it was my primary garment and would not take it off to reveal my underthings.

He sent me to get patted down by the female guard. She asked what she was screening me for (ie., did I make the alarm go beep) and he says cryptically, &quot;I&#039;ll tell you later.&quot;

Now of course she thinks I am a terrorist and pretty much performs a cavity search in the middle of all airport-goers. The pat down includes unbuttoning and opening my jacket, as well as flipping over the waistband of my trousers. I have now revealed my camisole, control top stockings and the color of my underwear to everyone. 

I have bare feet and yet she asks me to lift each foot while she wands underneath. What might I be stashing in my false bottom feet?

I either almost got arrested or had an aneurysm, I was so upset and mortified in front of the world and my colleague (who was trying to retrieve with great difficulty all of my belongings, laptop, suitcase, purse, shoes, jewelry in the bowl, etc., from the conveyor belt while I was being violated). Instead, I took the Bing-Zen approach and kept mum long enough to make my way to the Admiral&#039;s Club lounge for an early gin and tonic.

And yet journalists keep sending in stories of how they sneak contraband and weapons through airport security. 

WTF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stanley,<br />
You rock! And so does your blog. I also loved &#8220;Element&#8217;s of Style&#8221; in this week&#8217;s Fortune. Made me squeamish, though.</p>
<p>My most recent airport horror story occurred at O&#8217;Hare, where I had just made a presentation at the airport Hilton and was on my way to Oklahoma City for a 2nd meeting that day. I had on a nice suit with a camisole underneath (not to be titillating, just the facts). I was traveling with a colleague, a cool 71-year old gentleman. </p>
<p>Going through security, the TSA troll asked me to remove my jacket. I told him it was my primary garment and would not take it off to reveal my underthings.</p>
<p>He sent me to get patted down by the female guard. She asked what she was screening me for (ie., did I make the alarm go beep) and he says cryptically, &#8220;I&#8217;ll tell you later.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now of course she thinks I am a terrorist and pretty much performs a cavity search in the middle of all airport-goers. The pat down includes unbuttoning and opening my jacket, as well as flipping over the waistband of my trousers. I have now revealed my camisole, control top stockings and the color of my underwear to everyone. </p>
<p>I have bare feet and yet she asks me to lift each foot while she wands underneath. What might I be stashing in my false bottom feet?</p>
<p>I either almost got arrested or had an aneurysm, I was so upset and mortified in front of the world and my colleague (who was trying to retrieve with great difficulty all of my belongings, laptop, suitcase, purse, shoes, jewelry in the bowl, etc., from the conveyor belt while I was being violated). Instead, I took the Bing-Zen approach and kept mum long enough to make my way to the Admiral&#8217;s Club lounge for an early gin and tonic.</p>
<p>And yet journalists keep sending in stories of how they sneak contraband and weapons through airport security. </p>
<p>WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian, Sudbury, MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian, Sudbury, MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 02:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this...Saturday morning at Logan airport in Boston, and I&#039;m waiting hours on a US Air plane because it has no fuel, and the flight crew is waiting for the fuel truck to show up.  Did they oversleep?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this&#8230;Saturday morning at Logan airport in Boston, and I&#8217;m waiting hours on a US Air plane because it has no fuel, and the flight crew is waiting for the fuel truck to show up.  Did they oversleep?</p>
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		<title>By: nk, new york, ny</title>
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		<dc:creator>nk, new york, ny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was on the same flight and found the solution...bourbon.</description>
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		<title>By: RS, Fort Drum NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>RS, Fort Drum NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you guys think those stories are bad... I flew on a military plane (C-17) in the dead of winter from Fort Drum NY, to Afghanistan in the middle of the night. The first leg to Germany was about 9 hours, and our plane&#039;s heater was broken. It was the coldest 9 hours of my life. I had on jeans, t-shirt, long sleeve shirt, hoodie and cold-weather gear pants and jacket, plus a hat and boots. I was wrapped up in a mink blanket too and I was still actually shivering. My water in my gatorade bottle was as cold as it is when it comes out of the refrigerator. It was even too cold (and uncomfortable) to sleep; I could see my breath. Oh, and having ear plugs in for 9 hours is not comfortable either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you guys think those stories are bad&#8230; I flew on a military plane (C-17) in the dead of winter from Fort Drum NY, to Afghanistan in the middle of the night. The first leg to Germany was about 9 hours, and our plane&#8217;s heater was broken. It was the coldest 9 hours of my life. I had on jeans, t-shirt, long sleeve shirt, hoodie and cold-weather gear pants and jacket, plus a hat and boots. I was wrapped up in a mink blanket too and I was still actually shivering. My water in my gatorade bottle was as cold as it is when it comes out of the refrigerator. It was even too cold (and uncomfortable) to sleep; I could see my breath. Oh, and having ear plugs in for 9 hours is not comfortable either.</p>
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		<title>By: Yadgyu, Harkeyville, TX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yadgyu, Harkeyville, TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing wrong with air travel. Those who complain are usually those who cause the most trouble. Everyone who has complained here has a serious mental deficiency that blinds them to their own faults. I believe that flying should be only for rich people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing wrong with air travel. Those who complain are usually those who cause the most trouble. Everyone who has complained here has a serious mental deficiency that blinds them to their own faults. I believe that flying should be only for rich people.</p>
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		<title>By: EQT, Hollywood , CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>EQT, Hollywood , CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to my World! As a flight attendant for said AA, scenarios like this are the norm. But you did notice how we (the crew) still make the best of it. I used to be proud and say I was American Airlines, now I work FOR American Airlines. The front line staff (agents &amp; cleaners) have been cut down to bare bones. Yet, may I gently remind you that last April upper management shared nearly 3 million dollars in bonuses. Sit back and watch...the union contracts are all becoming due. The French erected  guillotines during their revolution. We&#039;ve tossed the idea around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to my World! As a flight attendant for said AA, scenarios like this are the norm. But you did notice how we (the crew) still make the best of it. I used to be proud and say I was American Airlines, now I work FOR American Airlines. The front line staff (agents &amp; cleaners) have been cut down to bare bones. Yet, may I gently remind you that last April upper management shared nearly 3 million dollars in bonuses. Sit back and watch&#8230;the union contracts are all becoming due. The French erected  guillotines during their revolution. We&#8217;ve tossed the idea around.</p>
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		<title>By: Konrad, New York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konrad, New York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. Let me put my small stone. I fly often within US in business and occassionally visting family in Europe or enjoying vacations in tropics. Everything people say here about bad service, dirty planes, delays, lying to customers about reasons of delay to avoid law suits, bumping poor people from overbooked flights – it’s very true! I’ve seen this and more… Welcome to XXI century onboard american carriers.
Last April, flight to Warsaw (Poland) on Delta with connection in FRA. I decided to buy tickets for different airline than LOT (Polish) - only airline that offers direct flights from JFK or EWR to WAW. They fly old 767’s which break more often now, leaving passangers camping on airports, because they don’t have spare planes. LOT operates under 10 „heavy“ planes and serving many long-haul destinations. And after my parrents lost one day in Warsaw waiting for next plane last January, I thought I would do better flying „major“ carrier. I get Lufthansa ticket, but first portion of my origin flight (JFK-FRA) was operated by Delta. What a mistake... Delta is a shame. Dirty, stinky, old DELTA 767 plane took off from JFK almost 3 hrs late with no specific reason. Nothing different from LOT planes, only food much worse… Same style – early 80’s TV monitors hanging from celling, half of them doesn’t work. 
My trip started bad @ Delta check-in on the JFK airport, where they was trying to charge me $130 for 3 (three) extra pounds in one of suitcases. We settled to $50, after calling manager and showing press id…  Plane arrived in FRA 2 hrs late, I had only 45 mins left to catch my connection flight. Once you late for your flight on Good Friday, you would probably eat Easter brunch with airport workes, as all planes are packed 100% with pople coming back home for holidays. I have interupted Delta flight attendants &lt;&gt; while plane was waiting for arrival to the gate to help me get out of the plane faster (from row 33 it takes minimum 15 mins to start moving toward exit…), but they ignored me first and after second inqury I’ve heard that’s &lt;&gt;… and attendents started chatting about boyfriends again… Thanks to courtressy of FRA airport employees (not Delta) and Lufthansa staff me (and my luggage too!!!) made my flight to WAW, despite need to change terminals. Great people, great equipment, great German service quality. They stopped plane which was already on its way to the runway, put me in the bus and delivered onboard. After doors closed they proceed directly to busy runway and departed immediately. Lufhansa A320 landed in WAW 10 mins ahead schedule, despite 25 mins delay leaving airport. 

Believe me, service we receiving now has nothing to do with money we currently pay. My flight to WAW cost slightly over $1000 in economy class for round trip. I think that’s fair price for holiday period. Lufthansa gets same money for that flight but offers you 1000% better service. My return flight to JFK was 100% great Lufthansa experience. And again, they work for same money as Delta!!! American airlines are getting worse and worse every year. Service sucks, food quality too – I would afraid to feed homeless dog. Flight attendants are too often unpleasent and with overwhelming feeling that they can act like jerks, only because after 9/11 it’s easy to put complaining passenger in trouble – with one call to homeland security.
And yes, we should complain, keep complain as much as we can, complain to executives, to media, online. Otherwise they will keep doing things as they do now and laugh straight in our faces. I don’t care how much Delta employees make per hour/per year. It’s free country, you can always look for better job. Did anybody in the airport cared recently about how much you make to feed your family?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. Let me put my small stone. I fly often within US in business and occassionally visting family in Europe or enjoying vacations in tropics. Everything people say here about bad service, dirty planes, delays, lying to customers about reasons of delay to avoid law suits, bumping poor people from overbooked flights – it’s very true! I’ve seen this and more… Welcome to XXI century onboard american carriers.<br />
Last April, flight to Warsaw (Poland) on Delta with connection in FRA. I decided to buy tickets for different airline than LOT (Polish) &#8211; only airline that offers direct flights from JFK or EWR to WAW. They fly old 767’s which break more often now, leaving passangers camping on airports, because they don’t have spare planes. LOT operates under 10 „heavy“ planes and serving many long-haul destinations. And after my parrents lost one day in Warsaw waiting for next plane last January, I thought I would do better flying „major“ carrier. I get Lufthansa ticket, but first portion of my origin flight (JFK-FRA) was operated by Delta. What a mistake&#8230; Delta is a shame. Dirty, stinky, old DELTA 767 plane took off from JFK almost 3 hrs late with no specific reason. Nothing different from LOT planes, only food much worse… Same style – early 80’s TV monitors hanging from celling, half of them doesn’t work.<br />
My trip started bad @ Delta check-in on the JFK airport, where they was trying to charge me $130 for 3 (three) extra pounds in one of suitcases. We settled to $50, after calling manager and showing press id…  Plane arrived in FRA 2 hrs late, I had only 45 mins left to catch my connection flight. Once you late for your flight on Good Friday, you would probably eat Easter brunch with airport workes, as all planes are packed 100% with pople coming back home for holidays. I have interupted Delta flight attendants &lt;&gt; while plane was waiting for arrival to the gate to help me get out of the plane faster (from row 33 it takes minimum 15 mins to start moving toward exit…), but they ignored me first and after second inqury I’ve heard that’s &lt;&gt;… and attendents started chatting about boyfriends again… Thanks to courtressy of FRA airport employees (not Delta) and Lufthansa staff me (and my luggage too!!!) made my flight to WAW, despite need to change terminals. Great people, great equipment, great German service quality. They stopped plane which was already on its way to the runway, put me in the bus and delivered onboard. After doors closed they proceed directly to busy runway and departed immediately. Lufhansa A320 landed in WAW 10 mins ahead schedule, despite 25 mins delay leaving airport. </p>
<p>Believe me, service we receiving now has nothing to do with money we currently pay. My flight to WAW cost slightly over $1000 in economy class for round trip. I think that’s fair price for holiday period. Lufthansa gets same money for that flight but offers you 1000% better service. My return flight to JFK was 100% great Lufthansa experience. And again, they work for same money as Delta!!! American airlines are getting worse and worse every year. Service sucks, food quality too – I would afraid to feed homeless dog. Flight attendants are too often unpleasent and with overwhelming feeling that they can act like jerks, only because after 9/11 it’s easy to put complaining passenger in trouble – with one call to homeland security.<br />
And yes, we should complain, keep complain as much as we can, complain to executives, to media, online. Otherwise they will keep doing things as they do now and laugh straight in our faces. I don’t care how much Delta employees make per hour/per year. It’s free country, you can always look for better job. Did anybody in the airport cared recently about how much you make to feed your family?</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony in Atlanta, GA ...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony in Atlanta, GA ...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always put your name, address, several contact phone numbers, and preferably, your trip itinarary . . .</description>
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		<title>By: Shane, San Francisco, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane, San Francisco, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually your right about no cleaning crews.  Because they have been all furloughed.  NOW, you get the hard working employees who guide the flight in, unload your big bags from the baggage compartments, than walk up to clean the plane, than walk back down to load the out bound bags and than lock everything up and get ready to push you out of the gate.  And btw, about the ONE agent working the flight, YUP, you guessed it, another department with massive furloughed employees.  SURPRISED?  Why should anybody be?  That&#039;s what happened after 9/11 and it it&#039;s gonna stick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually your right about no cleaning crews.  Because they have been all furloughed.  NOW, you get the hard working employees who guide the flight in, unload your big bags from the baggage compartments, than walk up to clean the plane, than walk back down to load the out bound bags and than lock everything up and get ready to push you out of the gate.  And btw, about the ONE agent working the flight, YUP, you guessed it, another department with massive furloughed employees.  SURPRISED?  Why should anybody be?  That&#8217;s what happened after 9/11 and it it&#8217;s gonna stick!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Atlanta, Georgia</title>
		<link>http://stanleybing.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/08/07/read-this-while-you-wait-in-the-frickin-airport/#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Atlanta, Georgia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I booked two frequent flyer coach seats in November 2006 on USAir from Atlanta to Ireland for July returning this week. When my wife and I arrived at the ATL airport 2hrs and 45 minutes before departure to check in we found out that our entire itinerary had been deleted. The gentleman at the counter was a mgr (35 yrs with USAir) he worked an 1hr and 50 minutes trying to get us booked back on the flights - he called inventory, reservations, and the award travel department and got no where, what was comical was the award travel rep was in central america and he said how could I expect two round trip free fares when I only had 12,000 miles in my account, of course I had the paperwork with me showing that I had 112k miles originally before the 100k deduction, but this guy couldn&#039;t see it. The Atlanta USair mgr was very nice and said that this had happened before with a domestic itinerary since the America West/US Air merger, but not on an intl flight and he was simply at a loss for what to do as the system would not allow him to reinstate my itinerary. I got on my cell phone and got the phone number for USAIr corporate in Phoenix and got someone in the executive office and in 15 minutes he had everything back in the system and we made our flights. Now the return flight was interesting on the positive the plane left on time and arrived within 10 minutes of the planned ETA which I think is excellent. The main issue was that one of the three coach toilets was down from the onset and during the flight a second toilet failed so there was only one functional coach toilet to Philadelphia. I&#039;m setting in the emergency row seat so I have a flight atttendant setting facing me and I ask how has the USAir merger with AmericaWest and I got a very honest answer. I was told the CEO is cheap that the airline has to pay an inventory tax for parts that are kept on the east coast and the CEo doesnt want to pay the tax so the mechanics dont have the parts so they have to wait for the parts to be flown in from Phoenix. WOW. I was told that this results in cancelled flights etc. and non-functioning toilets etc. This person was genuinely embarrassed by how dirty some of the planes are and when the CEO was questioned about this his response was, &#039;when the passengers get off the flight they forget about it&#039; and &#039;if we lose a customer our flights are so full we have two new customers waiting to take their place.&#039; Wow this is simply friggin amazing! OK on with my story. So now we are in Philly with our 3hr layover awaiting our flight to ATL at 5:10PM at 4:30 we get an announcement that due to weather delays for the incoming plane; our estimated departure is now 5:40 for this plane coming in from DC. We are updated shortly that it will yet be even later. Finally I get up and I take a walk to the USAir customer care counter in F concourse. I get there it is closed, but it directs me to a specific gate in F so I go there as the gate agent where I have been waiting isnt giving clear info. So now I&#039;m talking with this new person they look up the info and said the flight was cancelled due to &quot;a mechanical issue&quot; (nothing to do with weather) and a plane was being ferried in from Richmond. SOooo I went back to the gate where I had been waiting for several hrs and informed the gate agent of &#039;real story and that the flight had arrived at 6:07 and gave her the flight number and sure enough she was able to pull it up and see that it was taxiing to her gate, she said how can you know this and I told her where I got my info and she was amazed.  Finally we get on the plane (it was a Embrair commuter jet with about 40 seats there is one guy to load the bags and move the trolleys it takes him 20 unmotivated minutes to do so all the while the sole flight attendant is upfront talking to the pilots while a baby toward the back of the plane cries non-stop during this time and the flight attendant never comes back to see if she can help the mother with the baby. Fortunately, my wife and I had ear plugs and they were a great help. We arrived in ATL at almost 9:30 - two hours late. Frankly, I&#039;m not complaining they were two free tickets, but I had two fly a lot on USAir to get them so for those that think I&#039;m just bitchin keep that in mind. I look at what the airlines have gone throught since 9/11 where they had two much capacity and went through a blood bath financially and I can see how many airline employees are unhappy with their wage and benefit cuts, but some of the wages and benefits of pilots where way over the top, for example some top pay Delta captains (before the cuts) made a $250k + yr and that was with 7 weeks of vacation and a 70% pension for life when they retire - that&#039;s $175k/yr during retirement plus healthcare for life as well, its no wonder the pensions were underfunded because it takes billions to fund the annuities for the scores of pilots with egregious pensions like this and something had to give. Yes pilots spend a lot of time and years getting there ratings and building their time, but there has to be some balance and if they feel their underpaid they can always choose a different line of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I booked two frequent flyer coach seats in November 2006 on USAir from Atlanta to Ireland for July returning this week. When my wife and I arrived at the ATL airport 2hrs and 45 minutes before departure to check in we found out that our entire itinerary had been deleted. The gentleman at the counter was a mgr (35 yrs with USAir) he worked an 1hr and 50 minutes trying to get us booked back on the flights &#8211; he called inventory, reservations, and the award travel department and got no where, what was comical was the award travel rep was in central america and he said how could I expect two round trip free fares when I only had 12,000 miles in my account, of course I had the paperwork with me showing that I had 112k miles originally before the 100k deduction, but this guy couldn&#8217;t see it. The Atlanta USair mgr was very nice and said that this had happened before with a domestic itinerary since the America West/US Air merger, but not on an intl flight and he was simply at a loss for what to do as the system would not allow him to reinstate my itinerary. I got on my cell phone and got the phone number for USAIr corporate in Phoenix and got someone in the executive office and in 15 minutes he had everything back in the system and we made our flights. Now the return flight was interesting on the positive the plane left on time and arrived within 10 minutes of the planned ETA which I think is excellent. The main issue was that one of the three coach toilets was down from the onset and during the flight a second toilet failed so there was only one functional coach toilet to Philadelphia. I&#8217;m setting in the emergency row seat so I have a flight atttendant setting facing me and I ask how has the USAir merger with AmericaWest and I got a very honest answer. I was told the CEO is cheap that the airline has to pay an inventory tax for parts that are kept on the east coast and the CEo doesnt want to pay the tax so the mechanics dont have the parts so they have to wait for the parts to be flown in from Phoenix. WOW. I was told that this results in cancelled flights etc. and non-functioning toilets etc. This person was genuinely embarrassed by how dirty some of the planes are and when the CEO was questioned about this his response was, &#8216;when the passengers get off the flight they forget about it&#8217; and &#8216;if we lose a customer our flights are so full we have two new customers waiting to take their place.&#8217; Wow this is simply friggin amazing! OK on with my story. So now we are in Philly with our 3hr layover awaiting our flight to ATL at 5:10PM at 4:30 we get an announcement that due to weather delays for the incoming plane; our estimated departure is now 5:40 for this plane coming in from DC. We are updated shortly that it will yet be even later. Finally I get up and I take a walk to the USAir customer care counter in F concourse. I get there it is closed, but it directs me to a specific gate in F so I go there as the gate agent where I have been waiting isnt giving clear info. So now I&#8217;m talking with this new person they look up the info and said the flight was cancelled due to &#8220;a mechanical issue&#8221; (nothing to do with weather) and a plane was being ferried in from Richmond. SOooo I went back to the gate where I had been waiting for several hrs and informed the gate agent of &#8216;real story and that the flight had arrived at 6:07 and gave her the flight number and sure enough she was able to pull it up and see that it was taxiing to her gate, she said how can you know this and I told her where I got my info and she was amazed.  Finally we get on the plane (it was a Embrair commuter jet with about 40 seats there is one guy to load the bags and move the trolleys it takes him 20 unmotivated minutes to do so all the while the sole flight attendant is upfront talking to the pilots while a baby toward the back of the plane cries non-stop during this time and the flight attendant never comes back to see if she can help the mother with the baby. Fortunately, my wife and I had ear plugs and they were a great help. We arrived in ATL at almost 9:30 &#8211; two hours late. Frankly, I&#8217;m not complaining they were two free tickets, but I had two fly a lot on USAir to get them so for those that think I&#8217;m just bitchin keep that in mind. I look at what the airlines have gone throught since 9/11 where they had two much capacity and went through a blood bath financially and I can see how many airline employees are unhappy with their wage and benefit cuts, but some of the wages and benefits of pilots where way over the top, for example some top pay Delta captains (before the cuts) made a $250k + yr and that was with 7 weeks of vacation and a 70% pension for life when they retire &#8211; that&#8217;s $175k/yr during retirement plus healthcare for life as well, its no wonder the pensions were underfunded because it takes billions to fund the annuities for the scores of pilots with egregious pensions like this and something had to give. Yes pilots spend a lot of time and years getting there ratings and building their time, but there has to be some balance and if they feel their underpaid they can always choose a different line of work.</p>
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