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	<title>Comments on: Now you&#8217;ve made me mad</title>
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	<description>FORTUNE&#039;s Stanley Bing shares his wit and wisdom every day with a blog, a career advice column, and special features like a gallery of Bullshit Jobs from his book 100 Bullshit Jobs ... and How to Get Them.</description>
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		<title>By: UK</title>
		<link>http://stanleybing.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/03/11/now-youve-made-me-mad/#comment-6008</link>
		<dc:creator>UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understandable frustrations
http://www.bajansunset.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understandable frustrations<br />
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		<title>By: Bill, Los Angeles CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill, Los Angeles CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you please post an additional comment where you explain why Ronald Regan is to blame for the airline industry&#039;s issues?   [If deregulation is your reason - keep in mind Jimmy Carter signed that law!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you please post an additional comment where you explain why Ronald Regan is to blame for the airline industry&#8217;s issues?   [If deregulation is your reason - keep in mind Jimmy Carter signed that law!]</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica, St. Cloud MN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica, St. Cloud MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse, you are right... it was a lovely day yesterday.  Weather is warmer finally and Spring is not that far away!!  Yipee!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse, you are right&#8230; it was a lovely day yesterday.  Weather is warmer finally and Spring is not that far away!!  Yipee!!</p>
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		<title>By: ib, chicago, il</title>
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		<dc:creator>ib, chicago, il</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not all druggies work at the same place, some make millions in show Biz. I respect people at Starbucks; I respect all people that contribute to society in a legal and decent way. However, working at a store is not the same as working as Flight Att.
So much for your society that rewards education:  Porn stars make good money, prostitutes, drug dealers, terrorists…  That’s not the point!  All I’m saying is that it does take certain qualification to be a Flight Att.  Just like not everyone qualifies to be a model, or a singer… I’m not here to dictate how much money anybody needs to make. I’m saying stop comparing things that are different! 

We know terrorists are still targeting airplanes, not Starbucks! Therefore, if you are a criminal, you can’t be trusted with the safety of passengers and have access to sensitive info about terror threats. I don’t care how smart your diploma says you are, or how carefully you drive your kids in a minivan… By the way: Don’t we have people dead or injured on car accidents every second?  How about airline accident death related? Get the point? Wasn’t it a Flight Att that busted Richard Reed(the shoe bomber) trying to blow up AA flight and saved all those people‘s lives and probably the company as well? 
Don’t some terrorists have diploma and are very educated as well? Some are doctors... there is a high demand for that! Some doctors/terrorist were busted, in England not too long ago (i guess the night club bombing event?!)...
It’s not about a “diploma”; it’s about safety in a terror targeted environment. Just look up the word “different”. It means,  NOT THE SAME THING! While you’re at it, research an event known as  9/11. It involved Airlines not Starbucks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not all druggies work at the same place, some make millions in show Biz. I respect people at Starbucks; I respect all people that contribute to society in a legal and decent way. However, working at a store is not the same as working as Flight Att.<br />
So much for your society that rewards education:  Porn stars make good money, prostitutes, drug dealers, terrorists…  That’s not the point!  All I’m saying is that it does take certain qualification to be a Flight Att.  Just like not everyone qualifies to be a model, or a singer… I’m not here to dictate how much money anybody needs to make. I’m saying stop comparing things that are different! </p>
<p>We know terrorists are still targeting airplanes, not Starbucks! Therefore, if you are a criminal, you can’t be trusted with the safety of passengers and have access to sensitive info about terror threats. I don’t care how smart your diploma says you are, or how carefully you drive your kids in a minivan… By the way: Don’t we have people dead or injured on car accidents every second?  How about airline accident death related? Get the point? Wasn’t it a Flight Att that busted Richard Reed(the shoe bomber) trying to blow up AA flight and saved all those people‘s lives and probably the company as well?<br />
Don’t some terrorists have diploma and are very educated as well? Some are doctors&#8230; there is a high demand for that! Some doctors/terrorist were busted, in England not too long ago (i guess the night club bombing event?!)&#8230;<br />
It’s not about a “diploma”; it’s about safety in a terror targeted environment. Just look up the word “different”. It means,  NOT THE SAME THING! While you’re at it, research an event known as  9/11. It involved Airlines not Starbucks!</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Bodden, Detroit, MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh Bodden, Detroit, MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet there are a lot of Baristas at Starbucks who don&#039;t do drugs and are regularly responsible for peoples&#039; lives (e.g., driving a minivan with kids in it).  We have an economic system based on free trade that rewards people with advanced educations and punishes those without.  If you&#039;re making $40K with benefits as a flight attendant right now, enjoy it while it lasts.  I wish everyone could make more money, but that&#039;s just reality and all the bad attitudes and management pay cuts in the world won&#039;t change that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet there are a lot of Baristas at Starbucks who don&#8217;t do drugs and are regularly responsible for peoples&#8217; lives (e.g., driving a minivan with kids in it).  We have an economic system based on free trade that rewards people with advanced educations and punishes those without.  If you&#8217;re making $40K with benefits as a flight attendant right now, enjoy it while it lasts.  I wish everyone could make more money, but that&#8217;s just reality and all the bad attitudes and management pay cuts in the world won&#8217;t change that.</p>
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		<title>By: I. B. chicago,il</title>
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		<dc:creator>I. B. chicago,il</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about my spelling! English is my fourth language. My native language is Portuguese. But here we go:

Airline employees are carefully selected and well qualified. 
To work at starbucks, you don&#039;t need to pass drug test, medical exams,  background check ( past 10 years), and be fingerprinted/investigated by the FBI. Airline employees do! 

To work at some places, You can even be an illegal immigrant. Not for an airline...They do check!
So, stop the ignorancy! Flight crew are responsable for people&#039;s lives and safety. I wouldn&#039;t say anybody can do that! Get a life people! To work a coffee house or store is a respectfull thing to do(anybody that works and is not lazy deserve respect for that) but to qualify for an airline job is a lot more dificult than you think. 
For all of you out there that have crimminal convictions(dui for example)or use drugs, have certain medical issues, bad appearance/bad higienne habits, and are illegal immigrants, you would never even  be considerated for an interview. Besides that, if you do have what it takes, and pass a few interviews, you can start trainning. And it&#039;s intensive! More than 40 hours a week for 6-7 weeks. A lot of it,  is computer application SABRE, medical, safety, and many other things that passengers don&#039;t see. If you make it(A lot of people don&#039;t) , you have to make it through the probation period (several months) and then you have to make sure you can handle the lifestyle. Not to mention that you have to have money saved for those weeks that you attend trainning,(you don&#039;t get paid for that) and also to relocate usually to the most expensive cities in the US, and they tell you where at the end of trainning. Also you have to  buy your Uniform and Luggage just to start working. It&#039;s very different than work at a restaurant or a store. So, stop comparing things that are completelly different because you look like an ignorant and clueless person!


Stop the ignorance people! The part of the job that you do see: Serving drinks, it&#039;s a very small part of the job. It&#039;s just like saying: Police officers are stupid and deserve to make little money because all they do is to write speeding tickets! 

I hate ignorance! Stoooooooooop it!

Also, after you invest all that money, relocating, and start climbing the seniority list, it&#039;s just difficult to just simply quit. Because you can&#039;t take your experience or seniority with you. So, you loose everything you invested for all those years. 

It&#039;s NOT as simple as you may think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about my spelling! English is my fourth language. My native language is Portuguese. But here we go:</p>
<p>Airline employees are carefully selected and well qualified.<br />
To work at starbucks, you don&#8217;t need to pass drug test, medical exams,  background check ( past 10 years), and be fingerprinted/investigated by the FBI. Airline employees do! </p>
<p>To work at some places, You can even be an illegal immigrant. Not for an airline&#8230;They do check!<br />
So, stop the ignorancy! Flight crew are responsable for people&#8217;s lives and safety. I wouldn&#8217;t say anybody can do that! Get a life people! To work a coffee house or store is a respectfull thing to do(anybody that works and is not lazy deserve respect for that) but to qualify for an airline job is a lot more dificult than you think.<br />
For all of you out there that have crimminal convictions(dui for example)or use drugs, have certain medical issues, bad appearance/bad higienne habits, and are illegal immigrants, you would never even  be considerated for an interview. Besides that, if you do have what it takes, and pass a few interviews, you can start trainning. And it&#8217;s intensive! More than 40 hours a week for 6-7 weeks. A lot of it,  is computer application SABRE, medical, safety, and many other things that passengers don&#8217;t see. If you make it(A lot of people don&#8217;t) , you have to make it through the probation period (several months) and then you have to make sure you can handle the lifestyle. Not to mention that you have to have money saved for those weeks that you attend trainning,(you don&#8217;t get paid for that) and also to relocate usually to the most expensive cities in the US, and they tell you where at the end of trainning. Also you have to  buy your Uniform and Luggage just to start working. It&#8217;s very different than work at a restaurant or a store. So, stop comparing things that are completelly different because you look like an ignorant and clueless person!</p>
<p>Stop the ignorance people! The part of the job that you do see: Serving drinks, it&#8217;s a very small part of the job. It&#8217;s just like saying: Police officers are stupid and deserve to make little money because all they do is to write speeding tickets! </p>
<p>I hate ignorance! Stoooooooooop it!</p>
<p>Also, after you invest all that money, relocating, and start climbing the seniority list, it&#8217;s just difficult to just simply quit. Because you can&#8217;t take your experience or seniority with you. So, you loose everything you invested for all those years. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s NOT as simple as you may think!</p>
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		<title>By: Barry, La Jolla, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry, La Jolla, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, guys. What are we really doing here?? We&#039;re paying next-to-nothing for our seats (especially on an inflation-adjusted basis), jet fuel prices are sky high, and airline salaries are in the hole. Under these circumstances, how many of us expect to be treated like kings?? And *what* do we think we really deserve, anyway?? Yet, it doesn&#039;t take long for me to find an American Airlines employee with a kind word or a smile ... working in one of the hardest businesses in the world. And the other day, a flight attendant I had never meant sprinted from one end of ORD to the other to bring me an item I negligently left behind on her plane. Considering the horrors of 9/11, all of the insults they take every day, and all of their hard work, these people (management included) deserve the biggest gold stars we can give them. How about it ... *act* like a human being, and maybe you&#039;ll be *treated* like one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, guys. What are we really doing here?? We&#8217;re paying next-to-nothing for our seats (especially on an inflation-adjusted basis), jet fuel prices are sky high, and airline salaries are in the hole. Under these circumstances, how many of us expect to be treated like kings?? And *what* do we think we really deserve, anyway?? Yet, it doesn&#8217;t take long for me to find an American Airlines employee with a kind word or a smile &#8230; working in one of the hardest businesses in the world. And the other day, a flight attendant I had never meant sprinted from one end of ORD to the other to bring me an item I negligently left behind on her plane. Considering the horrors of 9/11, all of the insults they take every day, and all of their hard work, these people (management included) deserve the biggest gold stars we can give them. How about it &#8230; *act* like a human being, and maybe you&#8217;ll be *treated* like one!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Herbst, St Louis, MO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Herbst, St Louis, MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bing,

Your frustration flying today&#039;s airlines is no longer anything new. It&#039;s my opinion this -frustration- carries over to airline employees as much as it does to the customers.

While your well written article this morning identifies some of the -problems- of today&#039;s airlines. You either ignored the cause of what&#039;s wrong in the industry or you have not accomplished the research to understand -why- the US Airline Industry has fallen so far in customer service.

Here are some startling details of what has actually occurred in the Airline Industry yet is virtually never recognized by the media.

The following data is from SEC filings and the most recent BTS reports and recognizes the 7 largest US Airlines which account for 72.4% of the US Airline market share [mainline data].

Since year 2000, the -last annual report prior to 911- and through 2007:

* Total passenger revenues were up by less than one percent.

* The average passenger fare increased from $137 to $153 [+13%]. After accounting for inflation, there has been no real increase in passenger fares.

* There are over 34% less employees for the 7 Major Airlines.

* The average number of passengers to employee ratio has increased by almost 36%.

* Average wage/salary [W2] expense is down by 29% before accounting for inflation.

* While all of this financial loss to the average airline employee has occurred; The employee revenue productivity has increased by an astounding 52%.

* The average labor cost per passenger one way fare has dropped from $60 [39%] to $37 [22%].

(fares noted above do not include government taxes and fees that are not included in airline revenues).

* At the same time rank and file employees worked more for less, management salaries [W2] increased by nearly 108%.

Mr. Bing, respectfully, the US Airline Industry use to lead the World. We now trail most foreign airlines in every measurable metric, especially, customer service.

The above is for information and not meant to provide a blind defense for rude, albeit frequently over-worked and underpaid employees.

One only has to consider the increased cost to drive your car across the state today compared to year 2000 to realize how low airfares really are today. 

I suggest before the industry can improve, recognition of exactly what the problems are must occur first. 

Then we must be willing to pay a relatively small additional amount per ticket at the same time well paid airline managements are encouraged to return this industry to what it use to be.

Sincerely,
Robert Herbst
Airlinefinancials.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bing,</p>
<p>Your frustration flying today&#8217;s airlines is no longer anything new. It&#8217;s my opinion this -frustration- carries over to airline employees as much as it does to the customers.</p>
<p>While your well written article this morning identifies some of the -problems- of today&#8217;s airlines. You either ignored the cause of what&#8217;s wrong in the industry or you have not accomplished the research to understand -why- the US Airline Industry has fallen so far in customer service.</p>
<p>Here are some startling details of what has actually occurred in the Airline Industry yet is virtually never recognized by the media.</p>
<p>The following data is from SEC filings and the most recent BTS reports and recognizes the 7 largest US Airlines which account for 72.4% of the US Airline market share [mainline data].</p>
<p>Since year 2000, the -last annual report prior to 911- and through 2007:</p>
<p>* Total passenger revenues were up by less than one percent.</p>
<p>* The average passenger fare increased from $137 to $153 [+13%]. After accounting for inflation, there has been no real increase in passenger fares.</p>
<p>* There are over 34% less employees for the 7 Major Airlines.</p>
<p>* The average number of passengers to employee ratio has increased by almost 36%.</p>
<p>* Average wage/salary [W2] expense is down by 29% before accounting for inflation.</p>
<p>* While all of this financial loss to the average airline employee has occurred; The employee revenue productivity has increased by an astounding 52%.</p>
<p>* The average labor cost per passenger one way fare has dropped from $60 [39%] to $37 [22%].</p>
<p>(fares noted above do not include government taxes and fees that are not included in airline revenues).</p>
<p>* At the same time rank and file employees worked more for less, management salaries [W2] increased by nearly 108%.</p>
<p>Mr. Bing, respectfully, the US Airline Industry use to lead the World. We now trail most foreign airlines in every measurable metric, especially, customer service.</p>
<p>The above is for information and not meant to provide a blind defense for rude, albeit frequently over-worked and underpaid employees.</p>
<p>One only has to consider the increased cost to drive your car across the state today compared to year 2000 to realize how low airfares really are today. </p>
<p>I suggest before the industry can improve, recognition of exactly what the problems are must occur first. </p>
<p>Then we must be willing to pay a relatively small additional amount per ticket at the same time well paid airline managements are encouraged to return this industry to what it use to be.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Robert Herbst<br />
Airlinefinancials.com</p>
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		<title>By: C Peery   Burns, TN</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Peery   Burns, TN</dc:creator>
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		<description>For every idiot employee that works at American or any other airline for that matter, there are many, many more employees like Bobbi that you speak so highly of. I can&#039;t imagine having a gate agent&#039;s job. When something beyond your control happens, you are at the mercy of literally hundreds of angry passengers that spit, scream, curse and basically want to tear your head off for trying to do your job. And, I might add, at less than standard wages. You have to applaud the employees that do go above and beyond their duty, they really do care. They don&#039;t get paid extra to care for irate, mean passengers. And,as far as the ones that don&#039;t care, at least for what I&#039;ve seen being married to a pilot with American for 22 years, they really are few and far between.  Contrary to poplar belief, most employees I know still feel something warm and fuzzy about working for American Airlines although it seems that AA management is taking that away with everything else. It&#039;s a pretty sad state of affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For every idiot employee that works at American or any other airline for that matter, there are many, many more employees like Bobbi that you speak so highly of. I can&#8217;t imagine having a gate agent&#8217;s job. When something beyond your control happens, you are at the mercy of literally hundreds of angry passengers that spit, scream, curse and basically want to tear your head off for trying to do your job. And, I might add, at less than standard wages. You have to applaud the employees that do go above and beyond their duty, they really do care. They don&#8217;t get paid extra to care for irate, mean passengers. And,as far as the ones that don&#8217;t care, at least for what I&#8217;ve seen being married to a pilot with American for 22 years, they really are few and far between.  Contrary to poplar belief, most employees I know still feel something warm and fuzzy about working for American Airlines although it seems that AA management is taking that away with everything else. It&#8217;s a pretty sad state of affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie, Memphis, Tn.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie, Memphis, Tn.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I sit and read all of the comments on this, I realize just how clueless the general public is on how airlines work.  Unless you have had the &quot;pleasure&quot; to work for an airline, don&#039;t lay blame.  I have been an airline employee for over eight years, working gates, ticket counter and baggage service.  Most airline employees (at least at my company) have to go thru strenuous training, and if they don&#039;t pass the training, they don&#039;t have a job.  Have you ever really stopped to think what it&#039;s all about?  First of all, ticket counter agents may not always have the right information.  We work off what we are given.  That is sometimes call &quot;lack of communication&quot;.  
   Granted, 99 percent of the passengers I check in are there in plenty of time for their flight, but then there are always those, that for one reason or another, cannot seem to get to the airport on time and expect us to hold the plane and then turn around and complain because they aren&#039;t on time!  Emergencies such as getting stuck in traffic in an accident situation can cause problems, but give yourself plenty of time to get there on time.  Don&#039;t expect us to hold the flight, it ain&#039;t gonna happen. Then there are those who know that there are weight limits on bags but expect you to waive the charge because they overpacked.  I ALWAYS give my passengers the option of taking things out of a bag to make the weight limit instead of just charging them money.  Is that not customer service?  Please study up on airline rules before leaving home.  And while you are packing your bag, don&#039;t pack the spray starch, laundry detergent or the paint for grandma&#039;s house.  These are things that can cause an airplane to burst into flames during flight.   Working during extreme OSO (off schedule operations such as thunderstorms or snowstorms) are not fun for us either.  I have worked many 12 and 14 hour days because I am not allowed to leave until all the passengers have been taken care of.  I feel like I have a responsibility to try and get each and every one of my passengers to their destination.  Their trip is just as important to me as it is to them.  But sometimes situations do not allow to make ALL passengers happy.  To put it quite simply, there just are not enough planes and seats to go around for everybody.  Don&#039;t yell at me when your flight is cancelled because the thunderstorm is too dangerous to fly through or the snow and ice makes it too slick to land an airplane.  These are done for safety reasons, not just to inconvience you.  And let&#039;s not forget the few and far between situations such as control tower radars and communications going out.  Would you really want a pilot to &quot;blind-fly&quot; an airplane just so you can get to your ski resort on time?  And mechanical issues come into play here.  Granted there are issues that are not taken care of when they should be, but have you not ever driven your car when the oil is too low or you have a bad tire?  Get a grip folks, these things happen.   As far as lost bags go, I lost your bag just to make you have to go without clean clothes or don&#039;t have the materials for that presentation you have to do.  Has anyone actually seen how bags are distributed in a major hub?  Mind boggling.  Most of it is done by machines and computers, and how reliable are those?  In smaller stations where the tags are read by hand and put on each aircraft, there is much less margin for error.  When it comes down to the times and delays, let&#039;s get one thing straight.  I can&#039;t speak for other airlines but the one I work for expects answers to why that airplane did not leave the gate on time.  Yes, we have to be accountable, at least at MY station.  And don&#039;t blame Reagan  for the high prices on tickets.  Blame the terrorists that screwed up the airline industry on September 11, or have you all forgotten? Blame the Middle East for oil prices that are making hard for us to buy gasoline for cars, let alone for airplanes.  Blame Bush for putting up with it.  We have plenty of oil in our own country.  Why can&#039;t we use it?  It is true that the airline industry is not what it used to be, but don&#039;t blame it on the front line employees.  There are those of us out there who still believe in customer service, but keep in mind, we can only work with what we have.  Yes, we as employees, of all the major airlines at least, have all taken pay cuts and concessions since 9/11, and yes we could find other jobs, and yes we complain about it, but we are still there to check you in, and board you for your flight.  And also, to find that bag and have it delivered to you when we didn&#039;t have it there just to make you mad.  Next time you walk up to an airline ticket counter agent or gate agent, stop and really think about maybe what that person has to go through so that you can make your trip.  And most of all, remember, there is NO perfect job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I sit and read all of the comments on this, I realize just how clueless the general public is on how airlines work.  Unless you have had the &#8220;pleasure&#8221; to work for an airline, don&#8217;t lay blame.  I have been an airline employee for over eight years, working gates, ticket counter and baggage service.  Most airline employees (at least at my company) have to go thru strenuous training, and if they don&#8217;t pass the training, they don&#8217;t have a job.  Have you ever really stopped to think what it&#8217;s all about?  First of all, ticket counter agents may not always have the right information.  We work off what we are given.  That is sometimes call &#8220;lack of communication&#8221;.<br />
   Granted, 99 percent of the passengers I check in are there in plenty of time for their flight, but then there are always those, that for one reason or another, cannot seem to get to the airport on time and expect us to hold the plane and then turn around and complain because they aren&#8217;t on time!  Emergencies such as getting stuck in traffic in an accident situation can cause problems, but give yourself plenty of time to get there on time.  Don&#8217;t expect us to hold the flight, it ain&#8217;t gonna happen. Then there are those who know that there are weight limits on bags but expect you to waive the charge because they overpacked.  I ALWAYS give my passengers the option of taking things out of a bag to make the weight limit instead of just charging them money.  Is that not customer service?  Please study up on airline rules before leaving home.  And while you are packing your bag, don&#8217;t pack the spray starch, laundry detergent or the paint for grandma&#8217;s house.  These are things that can cause an airplane to burst into flames during flight.   Working during extreme OSO (off schedule operations such as thunderstorms or snowstorms) are not fun for us either.  I have worked many 12 and 14 hour days because I am not allowed to leave until all the passengers have been taken care of.  I feel like I have a responsibility to try and get each and every one of my passengers to their destination.  Their trip is just as important to me as it is to them.  But sometimes situations do not allow to make ALL passengers happy.  To put it quite simply, there just are not enough planes and seats to go around for everybody.  Don&#8217;t yell at me when your flight is cancelled because the thunderstorm is too dangerous to fly through or the snow and ice makes it too slick to land an airplane.  These are done for safety reasons, not just to inconvience you.  And let&#8217;s not forget the few and far between situations such as control tower radars and communications going out.  Would you really want a pilot to &#8220;blind-fly&#8221; an airplane just so you can get to your ski resort on time?  And mechanical issues come into play here.  Granted there are issues that are not taken care of when they should be, but have you not ever driven your car when the oil is too low or you have a bad tire?  Get a grip folks, these things happen.   As far as lost bags go, I lost your bag just to make you have to go without clean clothes or don&#8217;t have the materials for that presentation you have to do.  Has anyone actually seen how bags are distributed in a major hub?  Mind boggling.  Most of it is done by machines and computers, and how reliable are those?  In smaller stations where the tags are read by hand and put on each aircraft, there is much less margin for error.  When it comes down to the times and delays, let&#8217;s get one thing straight.  I can&#8217;t speak for other airlines but the one I work for expects answers to why that airplane did not leave the gate on time.  Yes, we have to be accountable, at least at MY station.  And don&#8217;t blame Reagan  for the high prices on tickets.  Blame the terrorists that screwed up the airline industry on September 11, or have you all forgotten? Blame the Middle East for oil prices that are making hard for us to buy gasoline for cars, let alone for airplanes.  Blame Bush for putting up with it.  We have plenty of oil in our own country.  Why can&#8217;t we use it?  It is true that the airline industry is not what it used to be, but don&#8217;t blame it on the front line employees.  There are those of us out there who still believe in customer service, but keep in mind, we can only work with what we have.  Yes, we as employees, of all the major airlines at least, have all taken pay cuts and concessions since 9/11, and yes we could find other jobs, and yes we complain about it, but we are still there to check you in, and board you for your flight.  And also, to find that bag and have it delivered to you when we didn&#8217;t have it there just to make you mad.  Next time you walk up to an airline ticket counter agent or gate agent, stop and really think about maybe what that person has to go through so that you can make your trip.  And most of all, remember, there is NO perfect job!</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie, Northern MN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessie, Northern MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I don&#039;t understand is why some airlines provide excellent service (SWA, Virgin, Midwest, etc.) while others fail miserably (AA, Northwest etc.)  These companies are all basically operating in the same environment, and it is not our fault that oil is over $100 a barrel. I understand that, as an employee, having your pay reduced and such would suck... but no one is holding a gun to your head making you keep your job.  As a customer, we are essentially paying your (minimal as they may be) wages and ensuring that you HAVE a job.  Keeping the customer happy, gives way to return business, more butts in seats, and happier passengers, thus, making your job easier.  I guess misery really does love company.  But the whole maintenance (or lack there of) issue is scary.

Bing - I wouldn&#039;t want you to walk... or drive from NY to CA.  It is much more dangerous... and who would write this blog if something happened to you?

Jessica - where&#039;s the &quot;it&#039;s so nice, it feels like summer and I can drive with my windows down&quot; in St. Cloud today??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don&#8217;t understand is why some airlines provide excellent service (SWA, Virgin, Midwest, etc.) while others fail miserably (AA, Northwest etc.)  These companies are all basically operating in the same environment, and it is not our fault that oil is over $100 a barrel. I understand that, as an employee, having your pay reduced and such would suck&#8230; but no one is holding a gun to your head making you keep your job.  As a customer, we are essentially paying your (minimal as they may be) wages and ensuring that you HAVE a job.  Keeping the customer happy, gives way to return business, more butts in seats, and happier passengers, thus, making your job easier.  I guess misery really does love company.  But the whole maintenance (or lack there of) issue is scary.</p>
<p>Bing &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t want you to walk&#8230; or drive from NY to CA.  It is much more dangerous&#8230; and who would write this blog if something happened to you?</p>
<p>Jessica &#8211; where&#8217;s the &#8220;it&#8217;s so nice, it feels like summer and I can drive with my windows down&#8221; in St. Cloud today??</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan, Puyallup, WA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan, Puyallup, WA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read blogs like yours all the time.  You complain about the airlines but when you go to buy your ticket, you&#039;ll do whatever you can to save a penny.  This forces the airlines to cut costs.  In short, you (the public) are getting exactly what you&#039;ve demanded. 

If you want to get the best read on the airline, investigate the morale of the pilot group.  Sure there are other groups, but the airline won&#039;t be on time if this group is unhappy.  And right now, they&#039;re all quite pissed.

If the state of things continues much longer, most of the skilled pilots will quit and be replaced by the industry equivilent of trained monkies. The airline accident rate will spike.  

The good news is you&#039;ll no longer be so concerned with service or on-time performance.  You&#039;ll be happy just to have arrived alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read blogs like yours all the time.  You complain about the airlines but when you go to buy your ticket, you&#8217;ll do whatever you can to save a penny.  This forces the airlines to cut costs.  In short, you (the public) are getting exactly what you&#8217;ve demanded. </p>
<p>If you want to get the best read on the airline, investigate the morale of the pilot group.  Sure there are other groups, but the airline won&#8217;t be on time if this group is unhappy.  And right now, they&#8217;re all quite pissed.</p>
<p>If the state of things continues much longer, most of the skilled pilots will quit and be replaced by the industry equivilent of trained monkies. The airline accident rate will spike.  </p>
<p>The good news is you&#8217;ll no longer be so concerned with service or on-time performance.  You&#8217;ll be happy just to have arrived alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Bodden, Detroit, MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh Bodden, Detroit, MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard Schultz, CEO of Starbucks, made $10.6M in 2007.  The Barista at Glenn&#039;s neighborhood Starbucks makes $8/hr.  I bet Glenn still expects 5-star service when he orders his latte.  Glenn probably makes 2-3x as much as the Barista, so why does he feel entitled to his own demoralized state?  Would he prefer the job at Starbucks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard Schultz, CEO of Starbucks, made $10.6M in 2007.  The Barista at Glenn&#8217;s neighborhood Starbucks makes $8/hr.  I bet Glenn still expects 5-star service when he orders his latte.  Glenn probably makes 2-3x as much as the Barista, so why does he feel entitled to his own demoralized state?  Would he prefer the job at Starbucks?</p>
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		<title>By: susan, chicago il</title>
		<link>http://stanleybing.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/03/11/now-youve-made-me-mad/#comment-4220</link>
		<dc:creator>susan, chicago il</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have found if you bring the gate agents and flight attendants a gift, usually chocolate, things go much better. call it karma or whatever. at least making someone else happy makes me happy. please don&#039;t forget to tip the pilot. (read hilarious frommers thread)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have found if you bring the gate agents and flight attendants a gift, usually chocolate, things go much better. call it karma or whatever. at least making someone else happy makes me happy. please don&#8217;t forget to tip the pilot. (read hilarious frommers thread)</p>
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		<title>By: Thanh, Los Angeles, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thanh, Los Angeles, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bing,
I generally like your blogs, however, this one really shows a different side of hypocrisy.  Sure your example of the gate agent implies that he could have been human and more willing to bend the rules to help out the poor costumer.  However, do you really understand the HIS story?  What if he loses his job, which I might even assume is already insecure because of all the cuts in the airline business?  Another person commented that the airline staff are caught between a rock and a really hard place, which is true.  They WANT to be human; but they CAN&#039;T.  YOU, who wants to fly cheap, is putting them in that hard place.  The big cooperate head is the rock that is trying to squeeze every ounce of work from them.  (In addition to talking about being human, do you feel as a writer for the media you have a invisible responsibilities to talk about the horrors of the cooperative rock that squeeze the little guys?  I mean, come now, they are getting big pay even which the company is doing poorly.  If you do not step above your duties and write about them, why in the world will the gate agent need to step above his duty and be &quot;human&quot; as you call it.)  

Note:  I read your &quot;I’m open to any suggestion. As long as I don’t have to walk.&quot; as a double meaning.  You are open to talk about rants, and bash back at people, but aren&#039;t willing to actually do anything to make a difference.  If you talk about being &quot;human&quot; and all, be ready to back it up with your own deeds.   Elsewise, its just air talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bing,<br />
I generally like your blogs, however, this one really shows a different side of hypocrisy.  Sure your example of the gate agent implies that he could have been human and more willing to bend the rules to help out the poor costumer.  However, do you really understand the HIS story?  What if he loses his job, which I might even assume is already insecure because of all the cuts in the airline business?  Another person commented that the airline staff are caught between a rock and a really hard place, which is true.  They WANT to be human; but they CAN&#8217;T.  YOU, who wants to fly cheap, is putting them in that hard place.  The big cooperate head is the rock that is trying to squeeze every ounce of work from them.  (In addition to talking about being human, do you feel as a writer for the media you have a invisible responsibilities to talk about the horrors of the cooperative rock that squeeze the little guys?  I mean, come now, they are getting big pay even which the company is doing poorly.  If you do not step above your duties and write about them, why in the world will the gate agent need to step above his duty and be &#8220;human&#8221; as you call it.)  </p>
<p>Note:  I read your &#8220;I’m open to any suggestion. As long as I don’t have to walk.&#8221; as a double meaning.  You are open to talk about rants, and bash back at people, but aren&#8217;t willing to actually do anything to make a difference.  If you talk about being &#8220;human&#8221; and all, be ready to back it up with your own deeds.   Elsewise, its just air talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan, Orlando FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan, Orlando FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We all live within the belly of our own particular beast. How human we are within that confine is up to each of us.&quot;

Bing - that&#039;s a sharp comment.  Good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We all live within the belly of our own particular beast. How human we are within that confine is up to each of us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bing &#8211; that&#8217;s a sharp comment.  Good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil, Kansas City, MO</title>
		<link>http://stanleybing.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/03/11/now-youve-made-me-mad/#comment-4199</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil, Kansas City, MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading both posts and the various comments that follow, I feel as though AA management is caught between a rock and a hard place, so to speak.  No matter what the issue is, in this case it was a delay and poor customer service, the fingers always seem to point back to the leaders of the company.  They are not, however, on the front line dealing with the customers day in and day out.  They are simply employing and entrusting those they hire to provide exemplary customer service and hospitality.  Most delays are not caused by management, but rather weather, the FAA, and unexpected mechanical issues.  A delay due to a crew that is not hasty in the cleaning of a cabin as described in the posted narrative is caused by the employee not employer.  But, in true fashion, some are expeditious in their blame of management for all that ails the airline industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading both posts and the various comments that follow, I feel as though AA management is caught between a rock and a hard place, so to speak.  No matter what the issue is, in this case it was a delay and poor customer service, the fingers always seem to point back to the leaders of the company.  They are not, however, on the front line dealing with the customers day in and day out.  They are simply employing and entrusting those they hire to provide exemplary customer service and hospitality.  Most delays are not caused by management, but rather weather, the FAA, and unexpected mechanical issues.  A delay due to a crew that is not hasty in the cleaning of a cabin as described in the posted narrative is caused by the employee not employer.  But, in true fashion, some are expeditious in their blame of management for all that ails the airline industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica, St. Cloud, MN</title>
		<link>http://stanleybing.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/03/11/now-youve-made-me-mad/#comment-4197</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica, St. Cloud, MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  I learned some things over the last couple of blogs that reinforced by personal actions.  I used to think that the people that manned the gates were, pardon the pun, &quot;flighty&quot; with the brain wattage.  These responses have made me realize that more of the responsibility lies with leaderless organizations.  I will remember this the next time I HAVE to fly.
Around 10 years ago, I realized that every time I flew, I arrived in the pissiest mood possible due to various airline/attendant/gate attendant issues, and swore to fly as little as possible.  While I realize this isn&#039;t possible for business, I drive my gas suckin Yukon and LOVE it.  I don&#039;t loose my luggage, I can crank the tunes and belt out the lyrics as loud as I care to, I can stop if and when I choose for whatever reason, my seat is comfy and the best part???  Driving across the nation is cheaper round trip than a flight scheduled within a couple of weeks of use.  My record is 22 hours straight thru.  Yeeeeha!

Airline &quot;leadership&quot;, airport &quot;management&quot; and the FAA disgust me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I learned some things over the last couple of blogs that reinforced by personal actions.  I used to think that the people that manned the gates were, pardon the pun, &#8220;flighty&#8221; with the brain wattage.  These responses have made me realize that more of the responsibility lies with leaderless organizations.  I will remember this the next time I HAVE to fly.<br />
Around 10 years ago, I realized that every time I flew, I arrived in the pissiest mood possible due to various airline/attendant/gate attendant issues, and swore to fly as little as possible.  While I realize this isn&#8217;t possible for business, I drive my gas suckin Yukon and LOVE it.  I don&#8217;t loose my luggage, I can crank the tunes and belt out the lyrics as loud as I care to, I can stop if and when I choose for whatever reason, my seat is comfy and the best part???  Driving across the nation is cheaper round trip than a flight scheduled within a couple of weeks of use.  My record is 22 hours straight thru.  Yeeeeha!</p>
<p>Airline &#8220;leadership&#8221;, airport &#8220;management&#8221; and the FAA disgust me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan, Washington, DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan, Washington, DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn really makes the case for re-regulation.  Once ALL of the airlines are held accountable to an increased set of standards, including on-time arrivals, lost baggage complaints, maximum seating capacities and wages, real improvement in the customer experience can improve.  Until then, all of the airlines have to look at cutting EVERY possible cost, including customer service and maintenance, in order provide a product with a competitive price.

I&#039;m no fool.  I understand that regulation is essentially a price floor.  The effect of price floors is to increase supply and decrease demand.  Sure, that will mean more seats available.  It will also mean higher prices for seats, which means fewer people schlepping off to grandma&#039;s for Thanksgiving.  That, however, is a trade-off that I would be willing to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn really makes the case for re-regulation.  Once ALL of the airlines are held accountable to an increased set of standards, including on-time arrivals, lost baggage complaints, maximum seating capacities and wages, real improvement in the customer experience can improve.  Until then, all of the airlines have to look at cutting EVERY possible cost, including customer service and maintenance, in order provide a product with a competitive price.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no fool.  I understand that regulation is essentially a price floor.  The effect of price floors is to increase supply and decrease demand.  Sure, that will mean more seats available.  It will also mean higher prices for seats, which means fewer people schlepping off to grandma&#8217;s for Thanksgiving.  That, however, is a trade-off that I would be willing to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Charlotte NC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Charlotte NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Glenn in SF ,too, am an airline employee who has wathed his salary and hours drop tothe point where I had to sell my house and retrench economically.

And while, too, I am not an economist, Ihave to wonder if htere truly is a net positive economic befit to our current long distance transportation structure ---essentially flying.

At my airport, a hub, most passengers are flying short distances that could easily be served by other means like rail and bus, if thye truly wanted cheap transportation and if it had the capacity.

In fact, for the mearly 20% of pasengers at my terminal who are travelling to destinations within 200 miles of us, the total travel time between air, road, and rail is about equal.

I can&#039;t but  wonder if those families that fly with us, struggling to keep children entertained and under control, might not prefer a mode of transportation that allows the kids to stretch and play instead of being strapped down in a narrow seat.

The rail trip between here and the state capital is a joyful adventure for the dozens of schoolkids who make the trek daily. 

I believe that air travel does have a vital social and economic place in the US, but I can;t but wonder if that economic interest is being misread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Glenn in SF ,too, am an airline employee who has wathed his salary and hours drop tothe point where I had to sell my house and retrench economically.</p>
<p>And while, too, I am not an economist, Ihave to wonder if htere truly is a net positive economic befit to our current long distance transportation structure &#8212;essentially flying.</p>
<p>At my airport, a hub, most passengers are flying short distances that could easily be served by other means like rail and bus, if thye truly wanted cheap transportation and if it had the capacity.</p>
<p>In fact, for the mearly 20% of pasengers at my terminal who are travelling to destinations within 200 miles of us, the total travel time between air, road, and rail is about equal.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t but  wonder if those families that fly with us, struggling to keep children entertained and under control, might not prefer a mode of transportation that allows the kids to stretch and play instead of being strapped down in a narrow seat.</p>
<p>The rail trip between here and the state capital is a joyful adventure for the dozens of schoolkids who make the trek daily. </p>
<p>I believe that air travel does have a vital social and economic place in the US, but I can;t but wonder if that economic interest is being misread.</p>
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