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		<title>By: CHARLES SALWEN ST. PETERSBURG, FLORIDA</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHARLES SALWEN ST. PETERSBURG, FLORIDA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFTER CLOSING SO MANY DEALERS SERVICE WILL BECOME A HUGE PROBLEM. DRIVING TO THE NEXT TOWN FOR FACTORY WARRANTY REPAIRS, GETTING BACK TO WORK, MONTHS OF BACKLOGS ARE SURE TO APPEAR.  GOOD LUCK GM, NOT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFTER CLOSING SO MANY DEALERS SERVICE WILL BECOME A HUGE PROBLEM. DRIVING TO THE NEXT TOWN FOR FACTORY WARRANTY REPAIRS, GETTING BACK TO WORK, MONTHS OF BACKLOGS ARE SURE TO APPEAR.  GOOD LUCK GM, NOT</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps if GM mailed out 20% off coupons to your house by the hundreds, then they&#039;d get more sales too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps if GM mailed out 20% off coupons to your house by the hundreds, then they&#8217;d get more sales too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bev,Rio Rancho, NM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bev,Rio Rancho, NM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to nick,  gm does not exist to make a profit.  GM exists to pay benefits to thousands of retirees.  It sells cars to pay those benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to nick,  gm does not exist to make a profit.  GM exists to pay benefits to thousands of retirees.  It sells cars to pay those benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick, Annapolis, MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick, Annapolis, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;how could the Market value a great, crucial behemoth like General Motors less than a place that sells sheets, towels...&lt;/i&gt;
It&#039;s quite simple. General Motors does not exist to make cars. General Motors exists to make a profit. If it is no longer able to make a profit, it will soon no longer exist.
What&#039;s difficult to understand about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>how could the Market value a great, crucial behemoth like General Motors less than a place that sells sheets, towels&#8230;</i><br />
It&#8217;s quite simple. General Motors does not exist to make cars. General Motors exists to make a profit. If it is no longer able to make a profit, it will soon no longer exist.<br />
What&#8217;s difficult to understand about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack, Lancaster, California</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack, Lancaster, California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming from someone that basks in the freedom that the United States provides without contributing anything but another Anti-American diatribe, Jack Hammonds comments are absurd.  Canada is certainly an economic powerhouse (yeah, right...) and if you really want to talk about lazy alcoholics try looking at the French Canadians, oh and wait, what kind of cars do the Canadians produce... lets see Ford, GM, and Chrysler parts account for fully 80% of anything automotive produced in Canada.  So Jack, after GM, Ford and Chrysler go the way of the dinosuar what are all the unemployed Canadians going to do for a living, enlist in the Canadian Armed Forces, LOL...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from someone that basks in the freedom that the United States provides without contributing anything but another Anti-American diatribe, Jack Hammonds comments are absurd.  Canada is certainly an economic powerhouse (yeah, right&#8230;) and if you really want to talk about lazy alcoholics try looking at the French Canadians, oh and wait, what kind of cars do the Canadians produce&#8230; lets see Ford, GM, and Chrysler parts account for fully 80% of anything automotive produced in Canada.  So Jack, after GM, Ford and Chrysler go the way of the dinosuar what are all the unemployed Canadians going to do for a living, enlist in the Canadian Armed Forces, LOL&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Hammond Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Hammond Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM  and others have forgotten what made Henry Ford great, ie: make a product better and cheaper.

Foreign competition is showing American industry that it is bloated and inefficient, bogged down with debt and wage/benefit commitments it cannot keep.

The American worker can out work anybody, if you can just get him to put his beer down and work with both hands. Unfortunately the guy is an acoholic and nobody can get him to put his beer down.

GM is toast, Ford and Chrysler will follow, nobody wants to buy a vehicle from a company that won&#039;t be around much longer.
They will be joining the other dinosoaurs like Kaiser, studebaker, Henry J, etc. etc.

This is a global economy, what can one expect from a country overloaded with debt, no industrial backbone, out of natural resources,losing its grip on high technology and printing money faster than Zimbob.

Buy American, if you can still find out what they make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM  and others have forgotten what made Henry Ford great, ie: make a product better and cheaper.</p>
<p>Foreign competition is showing American industry that it is bloated and inefficient, bogged down with debt and wage/benefit commitments it cannot keep.</p>
<p>The American worker can out work anybody, if you can just get him to put his beer down and work with both hands. Unfortunately the guy is an acoholic and nobody can get him to put his beer down.</p>
<p>GM is toast, Ford and Chrysler will follow, nobody wants to buy a vehicle from a company that won&#8217;t be around much longer.<br />
They will be joining the other dinosoaurs like Kaiser, studebaker, Henry J, etc. etc.</p>
<p>This is a global economy, what can one expect from a country overloaded with debt, no industrial backbone, out of natural resources,losing its grip on high technology and printing money faster than Zimbob.</p>
<p>Buy American, if you can still find out what they make.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty, Seattle, Wa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty, Seattle, Wa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah it seems weird that place that sells coffee pots is worth more than the company that makes huge SUVs like their Yukon. 

I think GM&#039;s biggest mistakes come from lack of management&#039;s planning for better alternatives and earlier investing in other areas. They didn&#039;t put their eggs in enough baskets. Of course, one can look at FORD and Chrysler as they are not doing any better. They all blame fuel prices as an their excuse. We know that is not the whole story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it seems weird that place that sells coffee pots is worth more than the company that makes huge SUVs like their Yukon. </p>
<p>I think GM&#8217;s biggest mistakes come from lack of management&#8217;s planning for better alternatives and earlier investing in other areas. They didn&#8217;t put their eggs in enough baskets. Of course, one can look at FORD and Chrysler as they are not doing any better. They all blame fuel prices as an their excuse. We know that is not the whole story.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve, Milan, Ohio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve, Milan, Ohio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for GM for over 25 years until I was &#039;spun-off&#039; about 10 years ago.  And now this year I was sold from the bankrupt &#039;spin-off&#039;!  I think Market Cap has some connection to what would be left for investors if things go really bad.  And GM has 2 big strikes in that direction.  Things could go really bad as the auto oligopoly is larger now and GM is really being challenged as the top dog.  And the federal government is not perceiving  the auto industry as a key industry any more (but what industry is considered key?).  But even worse is that after years of building a large legacy cost with many retirees - both union and salary - there are huge liabilities to come out of any gross worth of the company should thigs go really bad.  So maybe the market is just saying that if things go bad you may at least have a warm blanket to cuddle (hide) under as a shareholder of BB&amp;B which is better than to end up under a GM car!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for GM for over 25 years until I was &#8217;spun-off&#8217; about 10 years ago.  And now this year I was sold from the bankrupt &#8217;spin-off&#8217;!  I think Market Cap has some connection to what would be left for investors if things go really bad.  And GM has 2 big strikes in that direction.  Things could go really bad as the auto oligopoly is larger now and GM is really being challenged as the top dog.  And the federal government is not perceiving  the auto industry as a key industry any more (but what industry is considered key?).  But even worse is that after years of building a large legacy cost with many retirees &#8211; both union and salary &#8211; there are huge liabilities to come out of any gross worth of the company should thigs go really bad.  So maybe the market is just saying that if things go bad you may at least have a warm blanket to cuddle (hide) under as a shareholder of BB&amp;B which is better than to end up under a GM car!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Shelby Twp. Mi.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Shelby Twp. Mi.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1985, in &quot;AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES, I read: &quot;there are 31 automobile manufacturing facilities in the world and there are many more on the sidelines waiting to jump in&quot;.

Today, I believe. there are more than 100 auto mfg. facilities.

G.M. had a natural demand for it&#039;s product since WWII.  The rest of the World was not industrialized enough to compete.

The clock does not stop ticking:  W=FxD (Work equals force times distance).  It was not complacency that that led to G.M.&#039;s fall in market share, it is pricing competition.  Under developed countries covet what America has.  

Given time, manufacturing standards get osteoporosis in infrastructure.

Trade deficits not only affect automotives; we simply need to look at our U.S. deficits to get our perpective.

Costs are determined by what the market will bear.

You can buy most anything that BB&amp;B has to offer in Target, K-Mart, Wall Mart, Meijers, and Wallgreens.

Essentially, the erosion of properity in the U.S. is accreting to competitive pricing throughout the developed countries of the World.

When you wear a Rolex and drive a Cadillac, try getting the message across to people living a substandard life style how hard you worked to get where you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1985, in &#8220;AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES, I read: &#8220;there are 31 automobile manufacturing facilities in the world and there are many more on the sidelines waiting to jump in&#8221;.</p>
<p>Today, I believe. there are more than 100 auto mfg. facilities.</p>
<p>G.M. had a natural demand for it&#8217;s product since WWII.  The rest of the World was not industrialized enough to compete.</p>
<p>The clock does not stop ticking:  W=FxD (Work equals force times distance).  It was not complacency that that led to G.M.&#8217;s fall in market share, it is pricing competition.  Under developed countries covet what America has.  </p>
<p>Given time, manufacturing standards get osteoporosis in infrastructure.</p>
<p>Trade deficits not only affect automotives; we simply need to look at our U.S. deficits to get our perpective.</p>
<p>Costs are determined by what the market will bear.</p>
<p>You can buy most anything that BB&amp;B has to offer in Target, K-Mart, Wall Mart, Meijers, and Wallgreens.</p>
<p>Essentially, the erosion of properity in the U.S. is accreting to competitive pricing throughout the developed countries of the World.</p>
<p>When you wear a Rolex and drive a Cadillac, try getting the message across to people living a substandard life style how hard you worked to get where you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve, Chicago, IL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve, Chicago, IL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer is simple.  GM has something around $40 billion in debt.  Bed Bath and Beyond has no debt.  Factor the debt into their respective market caps and you can see why they are valued the way they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer is simple.  GM has something around $40 billion in debt.  Bed Bath and Beyond has no debt.  Factor the debt into their respective market caps and you can see why they are valued the way they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric, Portland, Or (former Michigander)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric, Portland, Or (former Michigander)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty simple, Bing. BB&amp;B sells products that people want, usually at an affordable price.

GM sells products that people have learned not to want, mostly because of management&#039;s short-sighted decisions and hubris over the past 40-50 years.

Fact is, the whole US lifestyle has been moving away from what GM sells since the 70&#039;s - and management didn&#039;t get it.

So, it makes perfect sense to me that the market thinks BB&amp;B will survive and thrive, and GM will require massive new outlays of capital just to survive...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty simple, Bing. BB&amp;B sells products that people want, usually at an affordable price.</p>
<p>GM sells products that people have learned not to want, mostly because of management&#8217;s short-sighted decisions and hubris over the past 40-50 years.</p>
<p>Fact is, the whole US lifestyle has been moving away from what GM sells since the 70&#8217;s &#8211; and management didn&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>So, it makes perfect sense to me that the market thinks BB&amp;B will survive and thrive, and GM will require massive new outlays of capital just to survive&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tony nj</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony nj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you could get an interview with him, Ross Perot would give you the answer.</description>
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		<title>By: sawyerspeaks</title>
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		<dc:creator>sawyerspeaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps if George Foreman designed GM&#039;s grilles...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps if George Foreman designed GM&#8217;s grilles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca, Philadelphia, PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca, Philadelphia, PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say it makes perfect sense because BB&amp;B has done less fucking up  in general, and has fucked up to much smaller degrees. In addition to those, GM would seem to be in particularly hot water at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say it makes perfect sense because BB&amp;B has done less fucking up  in general, and has fucked up to much smaller degrees. In addition to those, GM would seem to be in particularly hot water at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill, Laurel, MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill, Laurel, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it makes sense, that is news to me.  I grew up at at time when we were told, &quot;As GM goes, so goes the nation.&quot;  Or something to that effect.  We believed it, too.  GM and the steel companies -- they ran the show.

If you are having an attitude adjustment about this factoid, you are not alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it makes sense, that is news to me.  I grew up at at time when we were told, &#8220;As GM goes, so goes the nation.&#8221;  Or something to that effect.  We believed it, too.  GM and the steel companies &#8212; they ran the show.</p>
<p>If you are having an attitude adjustment about this factoid, you are not alone.</p>
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